38 Special vs. .380 ACP
Original Post:
I am familiar with the 38 cartridge, but the 380 is new to me. Can some kind soul tell me about the 380?
While I am at it, what does the second number in some rifle cartridges stand for? For example 7.62mmx39mm.
Thanks in advance.
Reply, less than one hour later:by UJ2744e - "Visual Posts" Moderator
I give you the "short form" to start with.
First the .38 Special:
Rimmed (meaning rim sticks out beyond major case diameter) - therefore most suitable for revolvers. Case capacity - large enough to launch up to or about 158 grains at useful velocities.
Pressure - Low, due to very long duration of existence. Newer firearms with improved metals may use a slightly higher pressure rating known as "+P" in the same case.
Projectile Diameter: either .357" in jacketed or .358" in lead.
Then the .380 Auto:
Rimless (meaning the rim does not stick out beyond the major case diameter) - therefore most suitable for semiautomatic pistols.
Case capacity - large enough to launch up to about 100 grains at useful velocities.
Pressure - Low, due to long duration of existence. This is about the most recoil a cartridge can produce and still be used in a "blow-back" handgun action similar to a 22LR.
Projectile Diameter - .355 in jacketed or .356 in lead (this is 9mm)
Next, "names":
The metric method of designating cartridges is done by first stating the diameter of the standard projectile in mm and then the case length in mm. It is a "general" method of designating military cartridges that gives a quick ID of caliber and overall "power" level as indicated by how long the case is.
Here are few examples:
The Russian 7.62X39 uses a 7.62mm projectile in a 39mm length case.
The NATO 7.62X51 uses a 7.62mm projectile in a 51mm length case. This is known commercially as .308 Winchester in the USA.
The 9mm Luger is also known as the 9X19
The .380 Auto is also known as the 9X17
A decent reloading manual from a major bullet manufacturer such as Sierra, Speer, or Hornady should have this kind of information in it.
I hope this is helpful.
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Wednesday, April 1, 2009
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I DID NOT vote democrat...but this is what's going around....I thought it was interesting.
I think there may be some truth to this!
I voted Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. And...I've decided to marry my horse.
I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
I voted Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
I voted Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq, I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing, because they now think we're good people.
I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.
I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite The Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.
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